• /home/pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 hours ago

    Sometimes there are rich guys who go completely unprepared and they force their guides still take them on to summit even if it risks their lives.

    A lot of guides die because of rich assholes and then some more guides die getting the body of the same rich asshole off the mountain.

    If the guide doesn’t do it then they’ll get a bad reputation and more rich assholes won’t hire him so he starves.

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    Investigators say guides used a range of methods to force helicopter evacuations, including faking medical emergencies and lacing food with large amounts of baking powder to stimulate gastric distress commonly associated with altitude sickness. Others were given medications with excessive amounts of water to trigger symptoms.

    After trekkers reported nausea, dizziness or body aches, they were advised to descend and agree to costly emergency helicopter evacuations. Authorities said operators then used forged medical and flight documents to claim costs from international travel insurers.

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    19 hours ago

    Well that’s a new thing. Did anyone have Insurance Fraud Sherpa on their bingo card? What genre of music is that band name?

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    23 hours ago

    The rescues are real though, even if the reason for it is faked.

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      I’d be curious where you draw the line. Is it based on income, net worth, or just participation in expensive activities? What sort of trips and activities justify poisoning, and which ones would you let pass?

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        What was it the supreme court said about pornography - i know it when i see it? It’s one of those things that defy hard and fast rules, but are still identifiable.

        Paying to be taken up everest requires a lot of cash and free time, it speaks to a level of vanity and it has that buying my name onto an accomplishment vibe.

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          You are aware that this also included regular trekking groups? Not only everest?

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        I love my family, but my aunt and uncle have too much money most of the time.

        They’re actually planning to go on a two-week Mediterranean cruise this summer. And my aunt is going to France at some point for an art study thing, and then she’s just gonna hang out for an extra week by herself. Then my uncle owns a sailboat, and is regularly buying/paying for stuff for it, like a $20,000 engine overhaul, or an $800 custom welded part.

        My aunt, cousin and I all love Legos. We love building them and playing with them and looking at all the details and things. Yet my aunt is weird about dropping more than $100 on a set at one time, even for something like a birthday or other occasion. It’s a weird dichotomy.

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          Are we lowering the threshold for poisoning to Mediterranean cruises and lego sets now?

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            I’m not saying I’d poison (or want them to be poisoned) my family, but it’s a little disheartening to know that me and my mom, my brother and his family, can barely afford to live when they’re just going on all these world travels, buying whatever they want, doing all these expensive rich person activities like it’s nothing.

            They complain about their daughter (my cousin) basically being a 21-year-old toddler because they never took the time to teach her literally any discipline.

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              When people have money like that it can be weird. If they dont share enough, people close to them complain, if they share it probably at a reasonable level, they’ll often get people always asking for more.

              It can quickly devolve into a large part of their circle being like their daughter always coming to them to solve their money problems and then they get real mad if they dont.

              Some clear communicating around what’s okay and not can help.

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                The solution is for them to share so much, they’re no longer significantly ahead of anyone else.

                That’s how we reduce the disparity in wealth.

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        Net worth >500M, purchase of any exotic supercar or private jet, “climbing” Everest via making a guide do all of the hard work, being C suite in a medical insurance company or any company executing layoffs while giving execs bonuses, being a decision maker that signed off on the shuttering of USAID, to start. Essentially anyone that has abused their position of power to harm others for personal gain.

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          an “exotic supercar” can be had used for like $30k tho

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            I mean, it was a flippant comment, not an exhaustive analysis and list. I don’t realistically think we should be poisoning everyone that owns a supercar. More that people should not be able to accumulate enough wealth to afford them, and the people that buy new lambos cash are incredibly likely to be antisocial pieces of shit. Ideally, noone should have yachts and mansions and exotic cars because society should not enable individuals to amass fortunes. Until everyone is fed and housed, people shouldn’t be able to buy $100k toys.

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      You realize it’s not like only the 1% are climbing Everest? Yes it’s expensive but if it’s a life goal it’s certainly achievable for anyone middle class

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        only wealthy people, well off people are affording it, someone earnign min wage, isnt going to be doing this.

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          So anyone not making minimum wage is fair game for poisoning? Yeah that’s definitely not insane at all

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        The fact of the matter is that anyone willing to pay $75K-$100K on average to climb a mountain is a prime mark for a $5K scam.

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          They’re not being scammed money, insurance companies are. They’re just being screwed out of their trip.

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        I’m in the top 3%. I’ve never even CONSIDERED doing something like that. I have retirement to save for, kids to put through college. My car is now old enough to get a driver’s license of it’s own. I don’t piss my money away on stupid shit, I don’t buy an endless stream of consumer goods. My watch came from Costco. I fix my own cars, do my own home renovation when it’s cost and time effective. I clean my own bathrooms.

        Yes, a trip up everest is for a 1%er or a fucking moron who can’t actually afford it.

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          You don’t want to climb Everest, congratulations. Do you ever take a vacation? Bring your kids? Money that could have gone towards climbing Everest. I don’t personally get it either, but for plenty of people it’s a life long dream and the fact is you don’t need to be obscenely wealthy to do it. Just because you’ve decided you’re living life by some proper metric doesn’t make you right. If I had a goal like climbing Everest I’d certainly prefer to retire a couple of years later and actually do something in life.

          Also if you’re actually making $400,000k+ (which is apparently what top 3% is for the US), maybe don’t be such a miser and help spread some of that around. Pay a local mechanic to work on your car. Hire a maid to clean once in a while