• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    20 hours ago

    Nope, I’m saying it’s been prevalent on Lemmy and that everyone who created, shared or upvoted that content has absolutely no basis for going “Presumed innocent!”

    If you think Luigi’s a hero, you have no basis for saying he didn’t shoot and kill thr guy.

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        18 hours ago

        I’m addressing the hive mind who simultaneously believes Luigi is a hero but also somehow did not kill a guy.

        Both of those statements cannot be true at the same time.

        Lemmy loves Luigi and cannot stand the idea that he’s anything but an avenging angel sent from heaven.

        If you believe that, you can’t also believe he didn’t kill anyone.

        This is different from the common phrase “he didn’t do anything WRONG.” Which recognizes that, yeah, he killed the guy, but it was justified.

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          Wrong, it’s entirely possible for a person to make memes celebrating him as a symbol of resistance while also acknowledging the very real possibility that he’s innocent

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            We can celebrate the ideal of a person willing to fight back while still defending the actual person who may or may not have been the person who did it.

            “Luigi” is gestalt:

            1. An ideal of a person willing to fight for all of us against an oppressive system
            2. A Human who is charged and not yet legally proven guilty of a crime; who may or may not be a scapegoat

            We hail as heroes those who fight against oppression even when, and often because, their fighting breaks ‘the rules.’

            If Luigi shot this CEO, then he deserves our respect as a hero: A person who has sacrificed to remove a serial killer who was above the law. If Luigi did not shoot this CEO, then he deserves our support as a victim of the above system.

            Sharing memes and keeping him in the public zeitgeist supports both.

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            18 hours ago

            I’m open if there is new evidence, so far I’m not seeing it.

            We have photographic evidence, clearly showing his face, of Luigi in the area wearing the same clothing as did in the shooting video.

            Then, on capture, they find the gun used in the shooting.

            So, yeah, he plugged the guy. Criminal liability is a different question. Murder? Manslaughter? Justifiable homicide? That’s where the court comes in.

            You don’t need a guilty verdict to say he killed the guy.

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                  Also lol @ “we” as if you aren’t completely alone here in your absurd defense of the police narrative and the media presentation of the case, literally everyone here is telling you that you’re wrong and carefully explaining why in detail, it’s really just not plausible for a person to be this stubborn/stupid, pretty sure you’re just a fucking cop

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                  Your eyes did not and can not confirm the source of any of the video or the actual time or place of its recording, you’re choosing to accept the police narrative at face value and you’re choosing to enthusiastically present and defend it all as fact, which makes you either an incurable fucking moron or a lying sack of shit. Either way you should be ashamed and silent, in that order.