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    A split between the regular fascists and neo-reactionaries could provide an opportunity to overthrow the Trump regime.

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      Not sure which is which though. There are some suggestions that the Plutocrats like Musk, Thiel and others basically want feudal thiefdoms where they can use workers and people and do whatever they please. Bannon afaik is a statist. Trump doesn’t really believe in anything, and wouldn’t care if he’s President, Chairman or Emperor.

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        Indeed. We should not align with either side and instead take advantage of the regular chaos. Much harder to crush discent when there is infighting in the ruling class.

        If the Trump administration spends a lot of resources trying to suppress the billionaires, that would lead to fewer resources available to suppress the general population.

        On the other hand, if the billionaires coup the White House, they would show the US government to be weak to a coup/revolution while simultaneously losing the support of the MAGA crowd. To amplify the latter, we should make sure to spread on social media how JD Vance was chosen by Musk and other billionaires so as to undermine JD Vance’s support among the Republican base should the billionaires replace Trump with him.

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      They’ve been planning this shit since Goldwater, they’ve got contingency plans, that’s how we got here. They’re prepared to lose, that’s why they stacked the decks with heritage foundation plants from the top to the bottom of the system, we’ve already lost and if Elon and Donald get the fuck out of their way then they’ve got it made. I hate to say it, but keeping these idiots where they are is our best bet at pulling through this without having to start a war.

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        Well, we need to purge every person associated with the Heritage Foundation after the revolution.

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          That should definitely be an active part of the revolution, don’t give them a chance to apologize or pretend to reform or understand, kill them in their moment of tyranny and nobody will mourn them. We can’t have some bullshit ideological version of Anastasia happening to undo everything.

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            I’m not saying to kill them necessarily but certainly remove them from their positions, jail them for any crimes they have committed, seize their assets ect.

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            While cruel and evil, I have to agree with this position regarding neoconfederates. America has suffered a great deal of malice and corruption from allowing the original Confederates to retake root in the south after Reconstruction was shuttered. This can’t be allowed again.

            The tree of liberty needs to be watered and given manure. The likes of Thiel, Trump, Majory, Musk, Yarvin, and others would finally serve a useful purpose.

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              It is neither cruel nor evil to remove cruelty and evil from the world. To kill that which intends to kill all is merely establishing a will to live.

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                For me, it is important to not completely dehumanize members of the neoconfederates. They must be thoroughly extinguished, but reason and limits must be remembered, else the good guys will become rotten in turn. We mustn’t feel good from hurting people, or it will become an addiction.