• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Newsom is a piece of shit that needs to go.

    His views don’t align with Dem voters nationally, and certainly not within Cali.

    On this latest podcast, the meandering conversation started on America’s so-called “masculinity crisis”—a reference to real problems facing boys and men, such as higher rates of suicide and social isolation, or a nod to conservative pearl-clutching about the perceived “feminization” of American boys, depending on who you ask.

    “Most of these kids, many of them [are] not even having any relations, sexual relations, with other women,” Newsom said.

    The conversation went from lamenting how American youth don’t have enough sex, to hand-wringing about whether the LGBT rights movement may be pushing “sexuality” onto kids.

    “Speaking of sexuality and divisiveness,” Ryan said, “One of the things in the last administration that really divided people was gender affirming care, LGBTQ [sic].” They incorrectly equated sexual orientation and gender identity, leading to a conversation about what Newsom called “the trans issue.”

    “That’s now no longer about celebrating your rights. It’s about denying other people theirs,” Newsom said. “Marriage equality was about everyone’s right […] But your child may not have that same opportunity to get on the podium if a trans athlete is competing.”

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      He’s just repeating the same right-wing talking points we have to debunk every single day, designed to portray trans people as some kind of looming general threat. Gavin Newsom is no kind of ally.

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        I keep wondering if he is planning on switching parties and running as a moderate republican in '28 and this is just laying the groundwork.

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    “That’s now no longer about celebrating your rights. It’s about denying other people theirs,” Newsom said. “Marriage equality was about everyone’s right […] But your child may not have that same opportunity to get on the podium if a trans athlete is competing.”

    Let’s look at this…

    NCAA says out of 500,000 athletes, 10 (0.002%) are trans.

    If an estimated 1% of the US population is trans, that’s 34,000,000 people.

    Assuming that all 10 of those athletes win medals, Newsom would sacrifice the actual human rights of 34 million to see 10 people get a symbolic token? This is sounding like an excuse to be shitty.

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      3.4M, not 34M. And some trans athlete might not be open about it, understandably?

      Not that it detracts from your point at all. As you said:

      This is sounding like an excuse to be shitty.

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        Oops, thanks for the correction! 😊

        I’m sure there are more. I looked up high school athletes too but didn’t include it because estimates ranged to like 3-4% which sounded reeeeally high.

        And if we are counting people who suffer because they’re punishing trans people for existing, it likely is 10x the amount. I hope that everyone, trans or not, has 10 people that would be upset if the law was threatening them. I know it’s making me really upset and nervous for some of the people I know.

        Anyone who says we need to push people toward depression or self harm so what’s her face can get her 8th place swim medal has some real issues…

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      Slippery slope. If we start giving trans athletes equal rights, soon we might be treating ALL of them like people. Where would that leave us?!

      /s

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      He won’t. Just because he can’t. Unless you’re talking about a presidential run, in which case it sure seems like he’s been doing everything he can to not get that nomination.

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    Newsom is a textbook reactionary centrist.

    Zimmer argued that this version of centrism is “not about policy positions” as such, but more about self-image. If you view yourself as a liberal but “are experiencing these reactionary impulses,” he said, “it creates a kind of intellectual and emotional dissonance that is often resolved by declaring that which makes you uncomfortable is radical and extreme.”